So I decided to stick with JLab and bought these. I called Amazon and they took this model pair back and sent me another pair. The camera can go up and down as well as side to side (manually, but who cares?)I was easily able to hide the cig lighter cable and got one of those splitters so I still have function. One of them holds guitar by a strap for weeks no problem as long as youre using screws of course! Maybe once they stretch out, it?ll be fine. Sound quality is good ?? Just beware of what you get in the mail. I almost want to buy a spare. I have a few pairs of earbuds that came with a lightweight pouch to keep them in "for transport". Headphones with a 3.