Do not recommend them. Ive lifted weights for many years. I can tell you these meet my high standards and criteria for excellent work shoes! looks like Ups reTaped the box as it was delayed a day. It comes out of the headset into a volume controller and then goes into a connector which uses a thinner cable than the whole thing. Order the exact size it fits perfectly. Im blown away by these headphones. ? He said one word. I just got them and totally love them. Seems very sturdy, secures my phone really well, and has an easy squeeze release.