5 or 9 in shoes and I got a womens 10 and its a nice fit. These headphones suck! These have become one of my 22-month olds favorite shoes. Absolutely elegant shoe for the price! The battery life is amazing! Same as online description The build quality and package are very nice. most of all dog sleeps well on it. get the next size up because at first, these were a size 7 at the most. There is a ring hole on the bottom but not the lid.