If youre in the market for a shoe rack, this is probably as good as it gets. I dont often use the mic with this style of headset. these are so significantly different that original Birkenstocks that they have no business being grouped with the originals. She loves this type of headset and wanted another. The opening is way too small. Ive found it best to wash them in the sink and air dry them on a towel rack. Much prettier in person. Just received the 8 and they?re long enough. It is also 90 degrees to my fence on the table saw and was very easy to adjust. I finally found an attractive, sturdy rack to hold and display all my spices and decorative baking toppings.