5mm cable because it did not come with it, no big deal) (3. I ordered these in a 9. I never write bad reviews but I paid way too much for these shoes to let it pass. i wear size 10. cant wait for winter and being able to wrap up right out of the shower and the towel goes all the way around a few times, giggle. Not sure I would purchase again, but for the price Im not disappointed with what I received. Looks good but is too narrow. But on some of my audiobooks, iTunes fabricated a work title that isn?t anything I entered, and made it the default. Perhaps if these were $10. This chain is extremely short!