As a bonus, I was pleasantly surprised to find that the camera fit nicely on my years old plasma TV. It is fairly solid for the weights that I use for workout and for chinups. The two thumb joysticks have the right tension. I finally got this to work for me but I had to put the darn thing on a vise and tighten the joint back into place; replace the silly finger knob machine screw with a proper machine screw---- all of this after also fabricating a better gasket and now the thing is on tight and proper and wont be coming off. This is the second pair of Reefs I?ve purchased, the first pair were way more comfy. I bought these based on reviews and because I wanted to try something new. The only minor thing that I noticed is that they do not seem to grip rocks (I wore them hiking in Spain) as well as my previous model of these Teva sandals, however, it still has a very good grip. I had these turned up pretty high and I didnt have any distortion at all in either Earbud. Cushioned and supportive. * A-B-X-Y buttons are very responsive.