Tight and very uncomfortable. J?ai donc essayer le Steelseries Arctis Pro Wireless, tous les Logitech avec ou sans fils, j?ai même acheté un DAC avec mon autre casque beyerdynamics DT 990 Pro (le son était bien mais pas aussi précis). Overall they are extremely comfortable, no rubbing on from the straps, good arch and heel support, and very high quality for "foam" sandals. I bought this device for the integrated chromecast. These do the trick as a spice rack and look great. thats an accomplishment for him?? I compare these to my Astro A20 and to be fair the sound is good. This way I can listen with fresh ears without having any ear fatigue from using other headphones. Ding dong here thought I saw lint on my needle and tried to remove it by hand and bent the needle and then broke it! If you didnt order your JL with a hitch, this is a great make-up option.