for JBL and AKG I owned before, even with my DIY adjustment for weeks, still hurt, they were possibly 3/10. Fresh out of the box these slippers are a bit tight, but they quickly stretch out offering a true to size fit with a tiny amount of arch support. Look at them and they let go of each other and won?t attract. (BTW, maybe TMI, but I wear this over my underwear and I can then get several wears before washing on gentle cycle, hanging to dry) Simple and minimal design. It?s the right foot length but not possible to use as so tight. If you hate that feeling, I don?t recommend these. The tool stores under the lap bar/steering wheel in case you need it. this btracket is the perfect studio accessory. When playing Golf Story, my presses would stop the swing meter precisely when I intended, and in CTR:NF my power slides were easier to control than with other controllers.