Update: 2 months later these boots have started to come apart. But no the less highly recommend some of ya trying the 3466 kit if you have the 1600af or a 2600 chip or higher! I am not rating the shoes itself, but the seller. Ive made groupings for lights and simmer pots, too. They came stating 11-12. So I came looking for a sunhat with a smaller brim and found this one. Not too short, material is so soft. Well boy was I wrong. Chunky is an under statement. 00?; These flops beat everything else around, includingReef, Oakley, etc.