But the only part where the boots were lacking compared to the Chippewas are because they are not waterproof and seemed cheaper because of thinner material. These are not professional quality but they are doing a great job for us! Install was more complicated than I was expecting as these are the first controllers that I have ever modified and I almost gave up while doing the first one, but I stuck with it and it was totally worth it! I always develop a habit of pressing on my left earbud to get it tighter and then fiddling with both to get the sound even again. Front bar fits perfectly. These can go through whatever you want to put them through and they are comfortable (or so my son says). Product runs small but it?s great. They have way too much stretch in them to get them done up tight all the way up. Love these little packet. Mine may have been defective, continuously connects and disconnects from my phone at any distance.