I might even try a size 16 for dressing up with a slimmer fit, these are soft and stretchy enough to do that Id bet. I decided to remove my phone for the downhill sections but eventually got fed up doing that and was confident enough to just leave the phone in the cradle. Klapki s? bardzo w?skie, jak nie na m?sk? nog? ! Indra himself had received this knowledge from two physicians, the divine Ashwini brothers. Theres nothing like this stuff out there. This is not a sturdy product. As described, easy to install. made well small can put in pocket . I emailed Haizhuan and they replied quickly and sent a new headset within a few days. On top of that, the under part of the upper is made from a very synthetic material and I just didnt have ANY of these issues with the shoes I bought straight from Nordstrom.