Just what I expected Purchased this radio for a project to make a portable radio for my military truck. 5 inches above my knee with the sides being shorter due to the style of the dress. Noise cancelling is great on planes, im in peace and in my own world. I was conflicted on whether to get size 6 or 8 because she is right in between the measurements for both. I use them via Bluetooth with my iPhone and my kindle. The first one looked ok when we unpacked it- it didn?t look like a return- but it would NOT go together as it should have. I assume that will stop at some point. Mine came and they looked scuffed but it looked like they are not genuine later looks painted and even the emblem on the bottom is all screwed up. Definitely recommend if your foot is more on the narrow side, but if you have a wide foot--I do not think this will be the shoe for you