I absolutely love my older pair as I have chronic plantar faciaitis and cannot walk around shoeless. The sound is not very good Totally dissapointed because of small size. Love these head phones. I would say it?s wobbly if something not on it- so for this use- permanently hanging things on- it?s PERFECT. 5/8 depending on the shoe. The x and a button paint are starting to smear off,but I do wear the case in my work Jeans and jacket,and use it everyday . I returned them for a smaller size but higher rated color pair. The uppers looked more like moon-boots than previous versions. I was gifted a pair of these awhile back.