I like to use two rows spread out so my bath towel dries really well and I can hang another towel for hands. 2" and my samsung note with a cover is 6. ) What it really has going for it is the delightful fabric. If the Oneills dont work out, Ill definitely order another pair of these in mens size 13, and Ill just be a little careful when jumping around in the water. Absolutely beautiful Just received this controller and paired with system. My son loves them and they look great. A similar feel to the OEM pads--not a slippery leather but more of a semi-velour. Overpriced, but does the job in a great way. Ive benefited from it, too, because I get to try the yummy stuff hes making!