Just order it! It is currently the middle of a Midwestern summer, so I?ve only worn them indoors. If you need it for chain-mail, it works, too. I can still fit a pair of socks in these with the one-size-smaller-than-normal pair that Ive bought. It is a cheap device to give me peace of mind. But the material doesnt feel as nice as Apples and the edges stick out a bit more. It?s made to fit my AirPod Pro (with the Elago case) perfectly. For bad weather I wear wellies or wide fit boots of another brand. I also bought the dip attachments, and barbell hangers. Youll get addicted.