Por cierto amazon me los entrego 2 días antes de lo previsto, excelente servicio. Not sure what that says about consistent supply chain. arrived in a tattered cardboard burrito, bent significantly (see photo) 48" length is awkward to ship safely, but at this price for this amount of extruded material, Id hoped it would be shipped in a protective tube like Rocklers long, fragile hardware. I wore them for 4? or so hours and barely minded them at all. I was worried about being sturdy once on the wall to hold up 4-5 bottles but used the plastic insert in wall and it?s very sturdy. So I don?t anticipate slipping on my hard wood laminate floor. 5, purchased a 9 and had to return for a 10. I?m usually size 11-11. The cut of the shorts seems odd, I cant tell which is front and back and since theyre not fitted they look like theyre on backwards no matter which way I put them on. This was on sale and as inexpensive as it was, it still wasnt worth it.