Still no refund. I been using these since the 90s for light dusting and they work great! Quizá faltó que fuera contra agua, pero por el precio se me hace muy buena compra My wife drives this SUV like shes auditioning for a role in Mad Max yet somehow this mount holds onto the phone and keeps it where its supposed to be. Troop cpmliqué pour retourner, je le passerai à quelquune dautre? I?m no longer afraid of scratching or accidentally dropping case. Until, we gave up! Too bad the fleece lining isn?t removable for washing. Currently, theyre in the bathroom - but once I get the kitchen done, theyll make their way in there (hoping the gold-star-sticker-fairy plants one on me for my theyre/their/there powers). and I cant wait to wear them out!