I?m so glad I didn?t get the 8 because I honestly feel like 7. ordered the headphones for my 2 going on 3 year boy for his fire tablet and so glad I did he wore them straight away ! UPDATE: I found the black ones on another site for $20 so I ordered those, too. Ive deviated and been unfaithful, trying other brands that end up being returned. Also, they?re surprisingly small. Crown came off with the first time using it . I am really surprised that the Samsung HW-Q60T is so bad. Very comfortable once theyre broken in. The wire for the charger itself is a bit short, so you have to place it close to an outlet when charging, but the power and speed it has for charging more than makes up for it. If you are looking for something shiny to hold hand towels, this might work for you.