5mm jack leaving some of the metal exposed. Flop around, if I walk with the straps off. I do a lot of walking in Disney parks and for me these are the perfect shoes for that. It makes a huge difference in bicycle riding experience when you have a kickstand and you dont realize you need one until you have one! I only wish they would make a dressier style since there are places that you just cannot go in flip flops. as you can see in the picture everything fits. I ordered this about a week before a 250-mile bike ride across my state. Below is my original review. Two minor issues: Once bent, its hard to get the legs completely back to straight, but it still fits in the carrying sack even with them slightly bent. Excellent