then again i live in south florida maybe these werent the best choice but i still like them Not everyone is handy enough to figure out how to put it together. In a future where people from another planet where males prevail, they have to participate in games to get their mates from earth. Great for I-pods, I-phones, any kind of phone, great for computers and tablets. Sadly, as much as my 3 year old loves her "pink shoes" I cant give them 4 stars and I want to. Either way, both phones have been returned. maybe about inch and a half. Even works when you have to use the adaptor for iPhones that dont have a separate audio jack. I dont know why people are saying it has plastic boning. - A shoutout for the magnetic cellphone holder, however, SENSO if you can, please make the stick it on the back of your cellphone credit card holder RFID blocking and Ill be happy to use it!