i will post update. The shoes are well maintained, but the original boxes show their age. Completly false and misleading. Pads only make contact at the top, compressing the pads unevenly when not in use. I have two options, move the holder into the middle of either the right or left of my handle bar (effectively losing the ability to use the horizontal handlebar space or pad the top of the handlebar stem to prevent the phone from knocking against it like a pneumatic drill. The HD650s soundstage is wider, but that doesnt mean it can make a cramped recording sound airy. It?s been up for a few months so far and have experienced no slipping. I dont like the loop thing as they dont stay on for me. When walking in sweaty flip-flops they start to squeak with every step. I bought this item because it was highly rated.