So there you go. With the flat bottom they sit on a flat surface. 5 on this shoe felt a little too tight for comfort so I got 8. I am very pleased with theses AKGs which are almost as good. I have silicon protection on my remotes and it still fits in the case great with all the extra accessories. These sandals look expensive, offer great support and since they?re rubber bottom and PU leather upper they?re perfect for the river, lake or pool side. The other waist trainer I had had velcro and it eventually rolled down and would show through my shirts. Strong (not light weight - but durable). They are basically just rags sewn onto a flip flop, so they aren?t the best value, but the wife said they look great. cause they certainly are not usable everyday.